Late First Service??

RiceBurner · Post by **RiceBurner** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:52 pm

Vines are booked solid for nearly 2 weeks and I pick up my new Rockster tomorrow.

I can easily put the 600 miles on in a week, but can't get the bike serviced for nearly 2.

I've been told it's ok to keep riding the bike past the 600 miles. If I do this I'll have put on nearly 1100 miles by the time it gets serviced (maybe more).

Is this wise?

Are BMW sales personel correct to tell me that I can do this?

Personally I'm thinking not.

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anyone getting their bike serviced next weekend and Vines and would mind swapping dates?
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bigblackfalco · Post by **bigblackfalco** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:17 pm

I wouldn't.The oil they use in the first 600 miles is specially made to bed everything in.You'll be doing double what it's supposed to be!
Bailey.

MNinnim · Post by **MNinnim** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:25 pm

CW's in Dorchester prefer it if you have about 1000 miles on the bike as it gives the bike a chance to loosen up a bit. They then do a full check on the timing etc
Hope this helps
Mark

Rob B · Post by **Rob B** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:44 am

Did the same with mine, no problems yet, busy touching wood now.

Rob

Jason M · Post by **Jason M** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:28 am

Personally, I don't reckon it's worth worrying about. It'll be fine. How long do most people keep their bikes? 10k, 20k... 40k. Flipping thing's are still not anywhere near worn at that age yet a lot of people right them off as knackered. maybe it's different with BMs, I dunno, but a few 100 miles extra here and there isn't going to make any difference I think.

winger · Post by **winger** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:30 am

I had the same with my Tiger when i bought that new,played my face,still said thet were to busy told e'm i'd do my myself!!!,they said Ok and and stamped the book!!!.

Chris

Darth_1100S · Post by **Darth_1100S** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:20 am

Question you've got to ask is, if anything goes wrong with the bike before it gets serviced are they going to honour the warranty

if it's done over the prescribed mileage? The manufacturers set the service intervals not the dealership, so I reckon they're better placed to comment. If it's supposed to be done at 600 miles then there's a reason for it. Probably the fact that the first oil change is quite important, as oil contamination in the first 500 - 600 miles is heavy . Either do it yourself and see if they'll stamp the book or take it somewhere else. It's ok them saying it's alright to leave it but you can guarantee that it's only for their convenience, not for the well being of the bike.

BTW I hate dealerships

so I'm very biased

Dave.

mdouglas · Post by **mdouglas** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:42 pm

Vines are always like this at this time of year - all the fair weather riders bringing their bikes out of winter mothballs and clogging up the workshop.

Do it yourself. Buy the filter from Vines, write on the receipt the exact mileage at the time of change and file it with the service manual. If you want access to garage space and a BMW Oil Filter wrench, you're welcome to drop by (Surbiton). I'll even give you a hand.

(And you can stare at the Ed80 and realise the mistake of your Black/Orange decision

)

RiceBurner · Post by **RiceBurner** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:23 am

mdouglas wrote:Vines are always like this at this time of year - all the fair weather riders bringing their bikes out of winter mothballs and clogging up the workshop.

Do it yourself. Buy the filter from Vines, write on the receipt the exact mileage at the time of change and file it with the service manual. If you want access to garage space and a BMW Oil Filter wrench, you're welcome to drop by (Surbiton). I'll even give you a hand.

(And you can stare at the Ed80 and realise the mistake of your Black/Orange decision )

LOL.

Luckily I have a spare bike so travelling the extra days between reaching 600 miles and getting the service isn't a problem.

Vines made out that they have done this before with no warranty probls - but considering that I'm intending to take this bike round the clock (at least once) I figure I'll do it "by the book".

Gromit · Post by **Gromit** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:27 am

When running in my old 1150R I was told by S-cough/spit-C that they prefer to have bikes in at around the 1k mark; 600 miles isn't really enough.

bmwonder · Post by **bmwonder** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:30 am

Bloody hell - It comes to something when you have to book your first service before you even pick the bike up!

I took my S in with 850m on the clock for it's first service. 600 didn't seem like enough. Having said that it still drinks like a fish.

Darth_1100S · Post by **Darth_1100S** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:28 am

Gromit wrote:When running in my old 1150R I was told by S-cough/spit-C that they prefer to have bikes in at around the 1k mark; 600 miles isn't really enough.

So they know better than the guys who make them?

I'm sure if if it was preferable to leave it 'til 1K then BeeEm would make that the first service. Sounds like bollox to me....but then again it is SPC we're talking about here.

Dave.

Gats · Post by **Gats** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:33 pm

Remember, the Germans are metric - 600 miles makes for an (almost) even 1000 kms.

RiceBurner · Post by **RiceBurner** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:14 pm

Gats wrote:Remember, the Germans are metric - 600 miles makes for an (almost) even 1000 kms.

which is what is says in the manual (interestingly enough)

Gromit · Post by **Gromit** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:34 pm

I'd be tempted to go with Gary's explanation - 1000km is a nice 'round' figure - more plucked out of the air than for any scientific/engineering etc etc reason.

As to dealers knowing more about the machinery than the manufacturers, it's very often the case (although most probably not when speaking about certain BM dealers...ahem) that they do, although more often than not they're the smaller independent ones.

What I'd do (if I ever have a new bike again) is run it for 100 miles or so, drop the oil then re-fill with the same stuff up until the 1st service. Triumph sell a running-in oil over the counter, for example.