R1200RS

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:19 pm

Both of those look very nice and agree with above - first new BM for me to have interest in (apart from a GS - sorry

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Al · Post by Al » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:43 pm

Could be a very short conversation Ryan

P.S Can I have first dibs on your GS if she say YES.

Al.

f90x · Post by **f90x** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:43 pm

Gromit wrote:Looks v nice - and I agree with Peter in that it's the first remotely decent-looking BMW for a long, long time.

The trouble is they sold-out with the return to conventional indicator controls a while ago, and now they've whimped out with the front forks.

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This.

I really like the look of it but it's a shame about the forks as I love the telelever and I love that BMW's are a bit left field. For now...
And I mentioned the indicator thing to the main dealer the other week and he shrugged his shoulders.
For me, BMW are turning Japanese. They've had a taste of bigger sales with more mainstream ((albeit damned good) machines and I think it's the beginning of the end for BMW as we know them. I think I'd have one of these though.

andy griff · Post by **andy griff** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:29 pm

Maybe we'll see a glut of R1100s and R1200s on the second market next year !
This is probably the most appealing bike to that market since the 1100s went out of production. I say that because, although the 12 is a great bike ( I have one) it does not have the pillion and luggage capability of the 11.

I certainly like the look of it - apart from the enormous panniers - and it would appeal. Like others shame that the funky and effective tele lever has been cast out by the marketing department ( undoubtedly) as a way of appealing to a mass audience and why wouldn't you want to use your left hand to indicate left and right to indicate right ? Just too sensible for some !!

Anyways - all the more reason to go to the NEC and have a look...

PS - HP2 sport performance now only mediocre as there must be about 5 models with superior performance, and that can also carry enough for a weekend away, so prices might start to fall ( light blue touch paper and stand back)

Boxered · Post by **Boxered** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:14 pm

Hmm, well I didn't see that coming, was expecting an R1200ST, but this looks ok
Likes: shaft drive, boxer motor, weather protection, bigger panniers.

Dislikes: price (ok I'm guessing) pannier rails ( why can't they integrate them into the styling ala Honda and Ktm ), Ridiculously long reg plate carrier/ reflector, just make the seat unit longer and incorporate a little under seat storage, why have they done away with the front indicators in the mirror housing? ( I understand why these last 2 points would apply to full on sports bikes as they would be easily removed for a track day, but on a ST?)

Still, this could be my next bike but, I would wait for the inevitable HP edition, and then I would wait a couple of years for that to become an affordable used buy

Steve

1200boxer · Post by **1200boxer** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:30 pm

Gorgeous but without the telelever,I don't know.I doubt it'll handle better than the 1200S.I'm keeping mine,it's paid for and it's a fantastic bike.

andy griff · Post by **andy griff** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:24 am

1200 Boxer,

Agreed - let's start a bring back the 1200S campaign ... with Telelever

Fw190 · Post by **Fw190** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:41 am

maybe they'll suprise us with an S version... hmmm I like the R though, the RS is a good looking bike eh... I'll get to see it at EICMA next month as I'm there for work

Gromit · Post by **Gromit** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:49 am

The way I see it (rightly or wrongly) is that BMW have just produced a totally 'normal' motorcycle which just happens to have a Boxer motor. The thing which made previous bikes different - and truly great IME - was that wonderful front end. Even if I did have the money for this new RS, I wouldn't have one for that very reason. Not having a centrestand either?

After 60k miles on the Blackbird, I still missed the BMW indicator switchgear.

McBoxer · Post by **McBoxer** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:41 am

RoLoo posted this link on Pelican to the BMW press site that includes many, many more pictures. Enjoy - and thanks, RoLoo!

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/p ... node__9644

Hayden · Post by **Hayden** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:51 pm

f90x wrote:
For me, BMW are turning Japanese. They've had a taste of bigger sales with more mainstream ((albeit damned good) machines and I think it's the beginning of the end for BMW as we know them. I think I'd have one of these though.

I think the problem for people like us is that BMW need to sell more bikes, and we ain`t buying enough, so they need to get people off there Jap bikes.....and becoming more mainstream, with the addition of the `badge`is the only way forward.

The new R1200Rs I like, no Telelever is a shame but would not put me off, (anyone who`s followed PB on his `normal` shock Honda knows there`s nowt wrong with the way they work,.

) what would stop me buying one is possibly the looks, it just doesn`t look special to me.

I`ve been seriously looking at the new VFR800 recently, but just can`t bring myself to sign the paperwork, at first I thought just as well now this is out, but on reflection I think I would rather have a R1200S in my garage, it just looks a bit more special....that`s if I could bear to part with Betty!....

Steve

mrjon · Post by **mrjon** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:16 pm

It looks like a nice bike. I was trying to think why it looked strangely familiar for a new bike then I realised it's roughly speaking a boxer powered K16GT.

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:09 pm

I do like it but can appreciate the criticism - having recently purchased the same model VFR as Richard, I have mentioned to him that I prefer the BM indicators. Wonder what the price will be? I thought about this today and cannot fathom out why a super hyper sportsbike such as the ss1000rr can compete price wise with the Japs but an old modified agricultural boxer engine costs so much - have Ewan and Charly really pushed the prices up that much? I would love to get a new bike next year and wouldn't rule out the RS - would love a GS but I know I wouldn't be taking it off road so the RS may be just the bike - or keep the money and use the VFR and Boxercup!!

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:17 pm

If it had the telelever forks- perhaps many on here would have it as the do-it-all bike?

I must also admit that the traditional BMW indicator controls - make more sense to me.

Al

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:33 pm

Blackal wrote:If it had the telelever forks- perhaps many on here would have it as the do-it-all bike?

I must also admit that the traditional BMW indicator controls - make more sense to me.

Al

Me too, but sadly every single road test the journos whinged about them, which translates to a negative for purchasers so I can understand why they've "conformed", still a shame tho'

Thing is journos have a prob with them because they're jumping from bike to bike, owners soon adapt and most prefer, but the marketers must be appeased