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Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:04 pm
by victorlaszlo
Hi all,
I'm re-keying the lock cylinders for the cases I bought and seem to be missing 4x tumbler #3.
Does anyone have some un-used spares by any chance?
Also, I have 2 open ended tumblers, where are they supposed to go, are they the ones keeping the cylinders in the barrel?
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Many thanks Vic
Re: Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:26 pm
by slparry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mygeTPWUhqY
You need the springs to go with them and yes those two are the "end" ones that keep the barrel in place in the lock
I have a few wafers but you'd have to tell me which you need (they're numbered 1 to 3) alternatively your local dealership should have some spare. I assume 4 number 3's? I'm guessing you need the springs too?
If you get real stuck, send the locks and a key to me, with those end wafers, with a SAE, and I'll do them for you. (or bring them to the Welsh Weekend

)
Steve
Re: Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:35 pm
by victorlaszlo
slparry wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mygeTPWUhqY
You need the springs to go with them and yes those two are the "end" ones that keep the barrel in place in the lock
I have a few wafers but you'd have to tell me which you need (they're numbered 1 to 3) alternatively your local dealership should have some spare. I assume 4 number 3's? I'm guessing you need the springs too?
If you get real stuck, send the locks and a key to me, with those end wafers, with a SAE, and I'll do them for you. (or bring them to the Welsh Weekend

)
Steve
Hu Steve,
That's most kind of you.
I've rekeyed an R11S barrel before and it seems to be the same principle.
If the open ended ones are the end ones I should only need 2x #3.
Sprinfs i have, a few were missing but they look the same as the spare R11S ones so should be fine.
I'll double check when I get back home and pm you if that's OK?
Again many thanks, Victor
Re: Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:46 pm
by slparry
victorlaszlo wrote:slparry wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mygeTPWUhqY
You need the springs to go with them and yes those two are the "end" ones that keep the barrel in place in the lock
I have a few wafers but you'd have to tell me which you need (they're numbered 1 to 3) alternatively your local dealership should have some spare. I assume 4 number 3's? I'm guessing you need the springs too?
If you get real stuck, send the locks and a key to me, with those end wafers, with a SAE, and I'll do them for you. (or bring them to the Welsh Weekend

)
Steve
Hu Steve,
That's most kind of you.
I've rekeyed an R11S barrel before and it seems to be the same principle.
If the open ended ones are the end ones I should only need 2x #3.
Sprinfs i have, a few were missing but they look the same as the spare R11S ones so should be fine.
I'll double check when I get back home and pm you if that's OK?
Again many thanks, Victor
Cool, I have wafers coming out of my ears

Must do at least three sets a week and there's always spares. The end ones that you've pictured on the other hand are like hobby horse doodah .... if you lose them it's a new lock ... so be careful they don't become "ping-f*ckit" parts and fly off into the ether under spring tension.
Re: Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:36 pm
by SP250
Rebuild, when doing the springs, inside a large clear plastic bag so if any bits go flying they are still inside the bag.
Re: Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:12 pm
by Betelguese
I'm probably going to want to do this on the panniers I just acquired for my r11s. I have one flat key that fits them. What bits do I need to get to code them to my bike key? I guess just the correct tumblers? Thanks.
Re: Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 1:28 am
by victorlaszlo
Steve, thanks again for the help, all sorted now!
@anyone doing this, please not that the second last slot (before the retainer clip) should be left EMPTY! Otherwise you will not be able to get your key out and will have to disassemble the entire lock mechanism... Don't ask how I know this

Re: Key tumblers needed r12s
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 1:28 am
by victorlaszlo
Betelguese wrote:I'm probably going to want to do this on the panniers I just acquired for my r11s. I have one flat key that fits them. What bits do I need to get to code them to my bike key? I guess just the correct tumblers? Thanks.
Correct! I have a few spares, let me know if needed!