Calling GS owners

Al · Post by Al » Wed May 04, 2016 8:04 pm

Just bought some used Vario boxes for new bike, I know they can be recoded but one of them is unlocked and the other one is locked but the handle wasn`t clicked down so box will open. No keys with boxes but seller said boxes were ready to be coded.
Can the one in the locked position be recoded?

Al.

tanneman · Post by **tanneman** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:07 pm

You need the key to get the tumblers flush with the barrel. The retaining tumbler or ring can be pressed flush and the barrel extracted. There is a cheat but I cannot remember. Otherwise you will have to drill the barrel I think which is a gentle operation bordering on marking the panniers. I have only done it twice in 8 years. Get yourself over to UKGSer or maybe Blackal will be along shortly with more detail.

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Thu May 05, 2016 6:02 am

(scratching my head....)

I think you have to have the barrel of the lock - in the "unlocked" position in order to remove it from the case, but might be wrong on that (not at home to check).

Surely the key supplied - unlocks that unit?

If not - I think you will need to have a look on Youtube or a search that takes you to UKGSer or AdvRider for the full SP.

Re-coding is simple, if fiddly. You really only need 3 of the wafers "active" so don't worry if you can't use all 5.

Al

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Thu May 05, 2016 6:36 am

I had a problem with the pannier locks on my BCR and the local dealer managed to open it and sort it but I did have the key - might be worth a call to a dealer - failing that maybe a good locksmith could sort it

Al · Post by Al » Thu May 05, 2016 6:52 am

The ones I have one is unlocked the other is locked. Had a look on gs and adv site but threads I looked all use a key to get barrel out to recode it. Will spend a bit more time on it over weekend. Been busy trying to get4 bikes and a trailer to fit in my single garage!
Thanks for the replies.
Al.

JamesL · Post by **JamesL** » Thu May 05, 2016 1:27 pm

If they're the same logic as 11xx BMW panniers you have to insert the key to line up the wafers and you then insert a pin or whatever in the release hole and out pops the whole cylinder assembly with key attached.

So if you don't have the key you may be stuffed?

If you do have the key, then recoding the lock to a different key is very easy - just watch for tiny springs etc pinging all over the floor...

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Thu May 05, 2016 2:15 pm

The local dealer managed to get into mine when I couldn't unlock it but he did have the key. Maybe a good locksmith?

RiceBurner · Post by **RiceBurner** » Thu May 05, 2016 2:46 pm

Dealers can generally manage it because they have a lot of keys to try....

Seriously - it's that simple - there's only 'so'many variations so some keys are very close in shape and will 'just' open most of the wafers.

Al · Post by Al » Thu May 05, 2016 10:01 pm

I have no key, but from what I understand the box that is unlocked will be fine to recode, the other will probably need drilling out. Fair play to the seller he apologised profusely and refunded the cost of a key set so i should be ok as long as I dont F**k up the drilling!!! What could possibly go wrong?

Al.

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Fri May 06, 2016 5:34 am

I think if the box is unlocked, and open - then you should be able to remove the barrel from there?

(without drilling)

Al

Al · Post by Al » Fri May 06, 2016 5:05 pm

You thought correctly Al, 3 screws and the lock and catches come out in one piece and a sprung plate is compressed to remove the barrel, then its easy to remove the lock wafers. When I pick the bike up tomorrow I can do the same to the top box that is fitted and reset the side boxes to the same configuration, may need to get some new wafers possibly.

Thanks, Al.