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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:39 am
by dave the german
RiceBurner wrote:Dog Tyred wrote:RiceBurner wrote:
The bike already has 2 Goodridge stainless hoses direct from the m/c, (with a bit of slack) so hopefully no worries on that score.
I was referring the angle of the banjos. They may not fit the alternative caliper due to the angle change. One of them has a lug next to the banjo connection which requires a 90 degree banjo. The 45 degree will not fit because it clashes with the lug.
DT
I'll see when they turn up.
Had a long conversation with Motorworks and they persuaded me that since the R1150RS was a) specced with the same Tokico callipers as the Rockster, but b) came with Brembo calipers sometimes... that a pair of Brembo calipers removed from an R1150RS 'should' go straight on.
According to them - the R1100S Brembo isn't suitable because of a disc-rotor offset - not sure about that tbh, but they seemed adamant.
Pair of R1150RS Brembo EVO calipers will therefore be arriving at mine hopefully soon!
If you spoke to Darren at Motorworks, he has the reputation of knowing pretty much everything about the 1100s so you should be ok.
Looks are deceiving. I bought a Tokico R 1100 years ago and it looked the same as the damaged caliper but the machining where it fitted to the fork leg was a different angle so all pistons didn't cause the pads to contact correctly with the disc
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:30 pm
by Blackal
Well - NOS is a new one on me..............
The bane of my life at sea, and offshore - were spares marked "UBG"
(Used But Good
)
Al
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:27 am
by RiceBurner
dave the german wrote:RiceBurner wrote:Dog Tyred wrote:
I was referring the angle of the banjos. They may not fit the alternative caliper due to the angle change. One of them has a lug next to the banjo connection which requires a 90 degree banjo. The 45 degree will not fit because it clashes with the lug.
DT
I'll see when they turn up.
Had a long conversation with Motorworks and they persuaded me that since the R1150RS was a) specced with the same Tokico callipers as the Rockster, but b) came with Brembo calipers sometimes... that a pair of Brembo calipers removed from an R1150RS 'should' go straight on.
According to them - the R1100S Brembo isn't suitable because of a disc-rotor offset - not sure about that tbh, but they seemed adamant.
Pair of R1150RS Brembo EVO calipers will therefore be arriving at mine hopefully soon!
If you spoke to Darren at Motorworks, he has the reputation of knowing pretty much everything about the 1100s so you should be ok.
Looks are deceiving. I bought a Tokico R 1100 years ago and it looked the same as the damaged caliper but the machining where it fitted to the fork leg was a different angle so all pistons didn't cause the pads to contact correctly with the disc
Yeah - once I thought about all the possibilities in caliper dimensions I figured I'd go with what they recommended!
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:56 am
by dave the german
Blackal wrote:Well - NOS is a new one on me..............
The bane of my life at sea, and offshore - were spares marked "UBG"
(Used But Good
)
Al
your bikes are too new
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:35 pm
by dave the german
Blackal wrote:Well - NOS is a new one on me..............
The bane of my life at sea, and offshore - were spares marked "UBG"
(Used But Good
)
Al
I like that!! Who decides whether they are goo though?
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:27 pm
by Blackal
dave the german wrote:Blackal wrote:Well - NOS is a new one on me..............
The bane of my life at sea, and offshore - were spares marked "UBG"
(Used But Good
)
Al
I like that!! Who decides whether they are good though?
The bastard who decides to fit a new part, and keep the old one as "UBG".
I mean - why not just leave the old part on, if it is still good????
Grrrrrrr !!!!
Al
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:57 pm
by dave the german
Should that be "incompetent bastard" who rather than try to diagnose a fault just replaces things until it all works rather than systematically changes things and finds a faulty component?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:37 pm
by RiceBurner
Ok - for anyone interested.
The R1150RS Brembos slot straight on.
I bought a pair from Motorworks - not sure what mileage they'd done on the original bike but they were reasonably clean (with a little road-grime still in places).
The pistons HAD been pushed right back in when supplied but on pushing them out again they look ok at first glance.
I was in a hurry to get them on last night (they turned up yesterday) so I'll strip them off again this weekend and have a proper look at the piston walls (I don't have a compressor or any other way to push the pistons out so they needed to be attached to the bike and bled up anyway).
They feel TERRIFIC! Not sure if it's just because the Tokicos were so soft recently - but the Brembos feel massively better immediately.
At this point in time I'd say it's a highly recommended upgrade for the Rockster - obviously time will tell if these calipers suffer weather better than the Tokicos.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:25 pm
by nab 301
Excellent!!!
Callipers
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:43 am
by lesterzzzzzzzz
I have the Toki callipers. 68,000 trouble free miles then 1 piston began to stick. I could only find the full service kit @ £70. Is there anywhere that does just the seals. I now have a spare set of Pistons.
Re: Callipers
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:40 am
by RiceBurner
lesterzzzzzzzz wrote:I have the Toki callipers. 68,000 trouble free miles then 1 piston began to stick. I could only find the full service kit @ £70. Is there anywhere that does just the seals. I now have a spare set of Pistons.
I've always just replaced the pistons to be honest.
You can probably get the seals from a Kawasaki dealer though. Kawasaki's use tokicos almost throughout and they supply seals individually.
I used to buy from Cradley Kawasaki - worth trying.
You'll need to check the cylinder diameters but IIRC they're 32 & 36mm.