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Blackal wrote:
I think the Tracer is worth a try, as would be the Triumph Tiger 800. VFR -

three excellent bikes to try, have fun comparing, one of these may also fit the bill?...very good, overlooked bike..
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/mot ... rint-gt-se

cheers
Steve

No doubt a good bike, Steve - but I'm pretty sure Chris is looking at something smaller.

Al

Corvus wrote:

boxerscott wrote:

....BTW Dave I suspect there will be a glut of Vale minature dolls for sale.. minus dummy and rattle.

.....but full of pins. Ha ha.

Already got them Chris

Boxered wrote:Chris, While 114BHP on the Tracer is OK I wouldn't have thought 64 FT/LBs of torque would be suitable for two up work?
Pillion provision looks a bit sparse too?

Steve

Having a bit of trouble with where you are coming from with that one Steve bearing in mind it is a triple and not a twin, it makes it`s peak power at 8.5k rpm. so a test ride will be essential of course. Interesting the VFR makes less than the Tracer 75.1 N/M @8.5k ok slightly smaller engine at 782cc but I reckon neither bike is a slouch.

Pillion provision is a compromise as with all sporty/touring bikes. If it is not what the Lady is comfortable with then I will have to find one that is.

Fortunately Amanda is Sparse too A combined weight of 20.5 stone. Our friends had a Triumph 1050 ST I like that bike very much but the pillion perch is too high. We have tried it.

These middleweight bikes are not gutless, return good fuel economy and are becoming more and more popular. Each to their own I know, also I Know it will not have the sumptuous lazy torque that my 1100cc twin had.

If I do decide a big torquey beast is required then The Triumph Thunderbird Storm is the one I fancy. Without tassles! Our Touring theme would have to change too that is for sure.

Actually looking forward to the Show.

Blackal wrote:No doubt a good bike, Steve - but I'm pretty sure Chris is looking at something smaller.

Al

Ah,....
Cheers Al.


though.......Chris, just out of interest, the pillion perch was lowered a great deal on the GT compared to the ST, after compaints that the St`s was too high.

I don`t work for Triumph...honest..

cheers
Steve

Hayden wrote:

Blackal wrote:No doubt a good bike, Steve - but I'm pretty sure Chris is looking at something smaller.

Al

Ah,....
Cheers Al.


though.......Chris, just out of interest, the pillion perch was lowered a great deal on the GT compared to the ST, after compaints that the St`s was too high.

I don`t work for Triumph...honest..

cheers
Steve

I know the bike Steve good value for money I like that. One of my other touring mates has it, but at this moment in time it is not in the frame. I am liking the idea of a triple though, I have not had one before and I also think the Triumph "Brand" is pretty cool. The Triumph display at the show is defo on our list.

Just at the moment the Tracer is selling in big numbers, like the GS there exists a reason for that.

Please don't get me wrong Chris, I really do like the Tracer, it looks like a barrel load of fun, but i just don't see it as a two up tourer with full luggage, having said that I haven't ridden one, so I look forward to your in depth ride report ( but if you DO buy one, promise me you will paint those cheap and nasty looking silver hand guards black!)

Steve

[I know Chris - he wouldn't think of buying any model without giving it a thorough 2-up test. He'd probably make Amanda hold a couple of cases of beer on her knees to simulate their luggage
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Ha, you do not know how close to reality you are there!

boxerscott wrote:Ha, you do not know how close to reality you are there!

Aye - right!

Al

So went down to Carlisle on Saturday (with Blackal) to check out the Honda/BMW dealership and the Suzuki/Triumph one.

Of the sport/adventure Triumphs I would choose the 1050 sport, basically a speed triple with different sub frame handlebars ergonomics for two up sporty tour road stuff. Not that keen on the scaffolding for the panniers and it seemed "wide". Does not get the reviews I am looking for however.

The Honda VFR Crossrunner 2015 model, has a quality air about it. Quite a nice rumble from the engine with the standard Akka can on. There does not appear to be much adjustment of the windsheild and then to do that you have to get tools out. Not a major con but at the £10.3k price tag you would expect better. Definitely still on my list.

Just got the Tracer to check out now and wait for a mild salt free day for my test ride. I am liking the reviews, price tag and power/weight ratio of this bike. Sticking point is the utilitarian looks of all the sport/adventure stuff.

Are these bikes expensive for what they are? they look inexpensive against the £12k plus two up tourers and sport/ adventure bikes but are they overpriced? The KTM`s for sure seem so to me.

boxerscott wrote:So went down to Carlisle on Saturday (with Blackal) to check out the Honda/BMW dealership and the Suzuki/Triumph one.

Of the sport/adventure Triumphs I would choose the 1050 sport, basically a speed triple with different sub frame handlebars ergonomics for two up sporty tour road stuff. Not that keen on the scaffolding for the panniers and it seemed "wide". Does not get the reviews I am looking for however.

The Honda VFR Crossrunner 2015 model, has a quality air about it. Quite a nice rumble from the engine with the standard Akka can on. There does not appear to be much adjustment of the windsheild and then to do that you have to get tools out. Not a major con but at the £10.3k price tag you would expect better. Definitely still on my list.

Just got the Tracer to check out now and wait for a mild salt free day for my test ride. I am liking the reviews, price tag and power/weight ratio of this bike. Sticking point is the utilitarian looks of all the sport/adventure stuff.

Are these bikes expensive for what they are? they look inexpensive against the £12k plus two up tourers and sport/ adventure bikes but are they overpriced? The KTM`s for sure seem so to me.

So the budget and CC have both gone and bit then

andy griff wrote:

boxerscott wrote:So went down to Carlisle on Saturday (with Blackal) to check out the Honda/BMW dealership and the Suzuki/Triumph one.

Of the sport/adventure Triumphs I would choose the 1050 sport, basically a speed triple with different sub frame handlebars ergonomics for two up sporty tour road stuff. Not that keen on the scaffolding for the panniers and it seemed "wide". Does not get the reviews I am looking for however.

The Honda VFR Crossrunner 2015 model, has a quality air about it. Quite a nice rumble from the engine with the standard Akka can on. There does not appear to be much adjustment of the windsheild and then to do that you have to get tools out. Not a major con but at the £10.3k price tag you would expect better. Definitely still on my list.

Just got the Tracer to check out now and wait for a mild salt free day for my test ride. I am liking the reviews, price tag and power/weight ratio of this bike. Sticking point is the utilitarian looks of all the sport/adventure stuff.

Are these bikes expensive for what they are? they look inexpensive against the £12k plus two up tourers and sport/ adventure bikes but are they overpriced? The KTM`s for sure seem so to me.

So the budget and CC have both gone and bit then

Not sure about that, I blow hot and cold about buying a bike, I listen to what people say, that influences me. Can not make my own mind up without counsel from others. Tend to shy away from mainstream stuff yet the bike that interests me is the biggest overall seller in the UK this year

andy griff wrote:

boxerscott wrote:So went down to Carlisle on Saturday (with Blackal) to check out the Honda/BMW dealership and the Suzuki/Triumph one.

Of the sport/adventure Triumphs I would choose the 1050 sport, basically a speed triple with different sub frame handlebars ergonomics for two up sporty tour road stuff. Not that keen on the scaffolding for the panniers and it seemed "wide". Does not get the reviews I am looking for however.

The Honda VFR Crossrunner 2015 model, has a quality air about it. Quite a nice rumble from the engine with the standard Akka can on. There does not appear to be much adjustment of the windsheild and then to do that you have to get tools out. Not a major con but at the £10.3k price tag you would expect better. Definitely still on my list.

Just got the Tracer to check out now and wait for a mild salt free day for my test ride. I am liking the reviews, price tag and power/weight ratio of this bike. Sticking point is the utilitarian looks of all the sport/adventure stuff.

Are these bikes expensive for what they are? they look inexpensive against the £12k plus two up tourers and sport/ adventure bikes but are they overpriced? The KTM`s for sure seem so to me.

So the budget and CC have both gone and bit then

Not sure about that, I blow hot and cold about buying a bike, I listen to what people say, that influences me. Can not make my own mind up without counsel from others. Tend to shy away from mainstream stuff yet the bike that interests me is the biggest overall seller in the UK this year

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