What an numnut

R-man · Post by **R-man** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:03 am

No, not something explosive that happens behind the smallest door...

First set of CM's have now done 1600 miles trip up to Cairngorms and Western Isles (and some totally brilliant roads -

and I'm genuinely impressed with touring and going-for-it cornering both wet and dry.
As Mr Parry says they take whatever you chuck at them, and no problems.

Fitting them myself was an arse, though, as after first bead went on by hand (no levers needed) the 2nd one defeated me and I took em round to local tyre fitter, who agreed that they are pretty tight.

p.s. 120 and 170 size were £150 pair from MandP

f90x · Post by **f90x** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:59 am

I love Michelins and had the original; PR the PR2 and the PR3 on my 11S. All great, the 2 and 3 are more confidence inspiring in the wet than the original PR but i never had a problem with the originals. if you are after economy I'd go for the original, still a great tyre and I got roughly 6k out of each and felt confident on them all.

Bridgestones don't do it for me. I find that they twitch and they wear odly. The BT57 really is ancient now. Probably even more so than the Michelin PR.

my 12S came with new Metzler M3 and only lasted 3k (rear) and for me they break away too easily. never felt confident. They're cheap but still too much for a 3k tyre. I'd take the original Michelin PR any day.

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:06 am

f90x wrote:I love Michelins and had the original; PR the PR2 and the PR3 on my 11S. All great, the 2 and 3 being better in the wet than the original PR but if you are after economy I'd go for the original. Still a great tyre and I got roughly 6k out of all of them and felt confident on them all.

Bridgestones don't do it for me. I find that they twitch and they wear odly.

my 12S came with new Metzler M3 and only lasted 3k (rear) and for me they break away too easily. never felt confident. They're cheap but still too much for a 3k tyre. I'd take the original Michelin PR any day.

Pal of mine had the original Pilot Roads on his 1200Adv and swore by them, for longevity and grip. As I understand it - they were incrementaly developed through their production run.

The Metzeler M1 and M3 always seemed to have a "roundy" profile, as did the BT14 - would avoid all of them like the plague.

But - enough guys on here (without crowing) rate the Conti Road Attacks and Conti-motions to sway me.

Not swayed (or required

) by Boxerscott's recommendation for Tena for Men.................

Al

R-man · Post by **R-man** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:08 pm

In the 80's I ran all sorts of tyres, and soon adopted Dunlop RedArrows 'the original superbike tyre' extensively. On a 2-stroke 500 I was getting 4000 miles front (not much contact near roundabouts anyhow) and at the rear; then on a shaft drive yamaha the rear was routinely shot at 2000-2500 miles and the front was going nearly 4000. Remember in 1983 they cost me £30 each tyre -wow what's that with todays inflation?

dave the german · Post by **dave the german** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:02 pm

Put original Pilot Roads on last year and the wear and grip are good enough for me -BCT in Bristol (I think) done them at what I recall was a good price (but I can't recall well enough to remember exactly how much - it's an age thing)

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:12 pm

R-man wrote:In the 80's I ran all sorts of tyres, and soon adopted Dunlop RedArrows 'the original superbike tyre' extensively. On a 2-stroke 500 I was getting 4000 miles front (not much contact near roundabouts anyhow) and at the rear; then on a shaft drive yamaha the rear was routinely shot at 2000-2500 miles and the front was going nearly 4000. Remember in 1983 they cost me £30 each tyre -wow what's that with todays inflation?

Red Arrows <goes all misty eyed> I used to use them on my Z650 and Z1-R until Pirelli Phantoms came along then they became the preferred option for me

Boxermed69 · Post by **Boxermed69** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:37 pm

Ahhh, good ol' cross plies. Avon Super Venoms (AM22/23?) worked well on my VF750. Remember being amazed at the wet grip and feel - when new anyway. First radials tried were the excellent Michelin A/M59x on my 750 Turbo. Just streets ahead in terms of how they felt and epic (relatively) mileages achieved.

Mike

Corvus · Post by **Corvus** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:52 pm

BMbler wrote:just an update (got to be forgiven for due to being classed as senior)
Sports tyres and only 10mm wider (180/55) kept wearing off as squaring of
and
Mich PR3's in 170/60 size- whoa! what a difference it made in handling! I shall not boast too much about grip etc in REAL life riding conditions- perfect timing and weather we have for that
just a plain ergonomics when cornering are ever so different, to the level of re'adjusting my riding style- when cornering at slow and medium speeds I can adjust amount of steering by shifting weight forwards and backwards (a$se- foot pegs), to be honest kinda forgotten technique that was...
Absolutely definitively do recommend to stick to the right size for this bike

Narrow tyres dude. It's the future!

Tbh, I'm more concerned about the condition of the roads these days. Around these parts they are in abysmal condition and getting worse by the week.