Play in the rear wheel

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Play in the rear wheel

Postby Nick » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:54 pm

Hi Guys

Been trailing through posts on Paralever bearing replacement and adjustments. Bike has done 24000 miles.

Qn The play I am experiencing is mainly 12 and 6 o'clock and not the normal 3 and 9 o'clock Would this still be those bearings. Could it be the bushing in the torque arm?

If I apply the rear break I still have play at 6 and 12

Can anyone shed any light on the potential problem Cheers
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Re: Play in the rear wheel

Postby Jason M » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:34 pm

Nick wrote:Hi Guys

Been trailing through posts on Paralever bearing replacement and adjustments. Bike has done 24000 miles.

Qn The play I am experiencing is mainly 12 and 6 o'clock and not the normal 3 and 9 o'clock Would this still be those bearings. Could it be the bushing in the torque arm?

If I apply the rear break I still have play at 6 and 12

Can anyone shed any light on the potential problem Cheers


I'm almost sure it can only be the paralever bearings Nick, whatever the angle of play. To be sure, just get a 30mm socket (or 30mm open spanner preferably in this case) and a 12mm hex socket, then hold the spanner still and tighten the 12mm inner adjuster a little, probably only 1/2 turn. You might want to wave a heat source at it for 30 secs before trying it. If the play goes away then it's your bearings, if not then it's more likely to be the swing arm bearings than the torque arm bushing I would think. Either way, a cheap and relatively straight forward job you can do yourself in an hour or two.

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Postby Nick » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:58 pm

Thanks Jason

From recollection Jefferies must have adjusted them some two years ago. I wonder how many times they can be adjusted before they need replacing.

Going to the Alps in July so may consider replacing them. Going to have a go myself. It cannot be any harder than that sodding fuel filter
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Postby Cobbster » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:03 am

Hear hear with the fuel filter, what a Tw*T of a job!!

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Postby Steptoe » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:03 pm

Nick wrote:. I wonder how many times they can be adjusted before they need replacing.



That depends on how long they're left with any play. if you tighten them the moment you first feel any play you can keep them going for years.

If they're left with play, they'll get damaged very quickly as they are only tiny tapered needle roller bearings.

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Postby Nick » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:39 pm

Thanks Jason

Set about looking at this job

got all the tools and bearings. Prior to adding heat thought I would see how tight the pivot bearing bolt was . Looks like no locktight added when Jefferies adjusted last time. Just rotated with no effort. Tightened them up a little and the wheel play has gone.

Have not replaced the bearings but will need to do as a winter job.

Do you think I should redo and apply the locktight or leave it till I do the bearings?
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Postby Steptoe » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:07 am

Nick wrote:

Do you think I should redo and apply the locktight or leave it till I do the bearings?


I've replaced 50+ sets of paralever bearings, and never used any loctite on the pivots.
I mark them so it just takes a glance to see if they've moved, but none ever have. :wink:

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Postby Nick » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:51 pm

Thanks Steptoe

I feel a little more re-assured. Rode the bike today and it felt very stable in the corners
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Postby Steptoe » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:40 am

Steptoe wrote:
Nick wrote:

Do you think I should redo and apply the locktight or leave it till I do the bearings?


I've replaced 50+ sets of paralever bearings, and never used any loctite on the pivots.
I mark them so it just takes a glance to see if they've moved, but none ever have. :wink:


I'm not saying "don't use any loctite". But no need to beat yourself up if you haven't got any :wink:

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Postby plivez » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:19 am

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Hey what's the worst that can happen? :lol:

I'm not saying "don't use any loctite". But no need to beat yourself up if you haven't got any :wink:
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Postby Nick » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:21 pm

Thats got me thinking :oops:
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