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Postby winger » Sun May 28, 2006 5:34 pm

Just think you'll be able to on the GS site and then come back on here all holyier than thou!!!! thats what happens to most GS owners!

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Postby boxerpan » Sun May 28, 2006 8:19 pm

Boxadog 2000 wrote:Eh wats all this about fuel consumption ?

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You b*rstard, you know the moderator is in France and I can't get you barred for using that foul language in here :twisted:
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Postby Boxadog 2000 » Sun May 28, 2006 8:37 pm

Chris I hope that you know me better than that :!:

Yes i have visited the GS site and No I have not registered, I am not a fan of the tone of the site or impressed with the few posts that i have read.

I unlike many have had BMW's since 1980 (almost) exclusivley, And predominantly boxers, I did not want another 1100s I do not like the 1200s or any of the touring incarnations, so the last and only choice was a GS.

At this moment in time I am not qualified to pass Judgement as to wether it is a superior or inferior bike on the basis that i have owned it for less than 2 days.

However should I pass comment it will be based on opinion and experience and not bias, just because I now own a GS.


So pray tell whats this fuel consumption thing, I am expecting to get circa 45 mpg! am I in for a shock?

Bob

winger

Postby winger » Mon May 29, 2006 6:51 am

Come on then Bob!!,give us the run down of how you arrived at your present situation?? must have been a drastic change of mind or rush of blood to the head!.

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Comparisons

Postby Penfold » Mon May 29, 2006 9:17 am

winger wrote:Just think you'll be able to on the GS site and then come back on here all holyier than thou!!!! thats what happens to most GS owners!

Whilst Bob's formulating his reply, I'll just chuck-in my five pence worth, and thanks for letting me pop-in from time to time.

Grateful for the tip about the crud catcher at the back. I wondered what it is for. I've got a Hugger on the shopping list but am waiting for a new, Mark II, design to be finalised by one of the independents. In the meantime, lots of 'hosepipe free' cleaning required . :roll:

I'm not sure what is meant about the fuel consumption comment either. I just bung the stuff in and ride, then bung some more in about 180 miles later. No idea what it does to the gallon. Is the consumption a problem, or good?

I guess the "holier than thou" comment is about people extolling the virtues of the GS; sort of "It's the only bike you'll ever need" guff? Yep, it's a great bike, but it has its downsides too, and I still miss some of the nice bits about my 1100S.

The UKGSER site has its idiosyncracies, and some of the contributors are definitely "challenging". They often post stuff on there merely to wind each other up and there's a knack to undertanding what is bait and what is a genuine rant. It's not always to my taste but it's a fantastic source of information, and no shortage of people keen to impart it. You just need to apply your own 'filter' mechanism and not bite. It's a bit like Mess Deck banter; to get the most of it you need to be 'in' (I'm not) and have a thick skin. Boxertrix is very welcoming, which is why I keep lurking :D

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Postby Boxadog 2000 » Mon May 29, 2006 1:47 pm

Rush of blood to the head is about spot on. :roll:

As you know I thought that the Tiger was and still is a really great and capable bike, the only criticism I have is of the clonky forks other than that I would whole hartedly recomend it to anyone.

As penfold stated the GS does have a few shortcomings, but the absolute truth is as my wife said when I said that I fancied another Beemer, and I quote "you just have BMW in the blood".

Anyway give it another couple of months and I will be back to slagging BMW off for crap this and crap that.

Now where is my box of stainless steel nuts & Bolts 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Comparisons

Postby boxerpan » Tue May 30, 2006 12:12 pm

Penfold wrote:
winger wrote:Just think you'll be able to on the GS site and then come back on here all holyier than thou!!!! thats what happens to most GS owners!

Whilst Bob's formulating his reply, I'll just chuck-in my five pence worth, and thanks for letting me pop-in from time to time.

Grateful for the tip about the crud catcher at the back. I wondered what it is for. I've got a Hugger on the shopping list but am waiting for a new, Mark II, design to be finalised by one of the independents. In the meantime, lots of 'hosepipe free' cleaning required . :roll:

I'm not sure what is meant about the fuel consumption comment either. I just bung the stuff in and ride, then bung some more in about 180 miles later. No idea what it does to the gallon. Is the consumption a problem, or good?

I guess the "holier than thou" comment is about people extolling the virtues of the GS; sort of "It's the only bike you'll ever need" guff? Yep, it's a great bike, but it has its downsides too, and I still miss some of the nice bits about my 1100S.

The UKGSER site has its idiosyncracies, and some of the contributors are definitely "challenging". They often post stuff on there merely to wind each other up and there's a knack to undertanding what is bait and what is a genuine rant. It's not always to my taste but it's a fantastic source of information, and no shortage of people keen to impart it. You just need to apply your own 'filter' mechanism and not bite. It's a bit like Mess Deck banter; to get the most of it you need to be 'in' (I'm not) and have a thick skin. Boxertrix is very welcoming, which is why I keep lurking :D

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Sounds like you have it pretty well sussed. The 'fuel consumption' was a euphamism for all the boring stuff that I've overheard whenever I've been near a couple of BMWOC types.
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Re: Comparisons

Postby Penfold » Tue May 30, 2006 10:57 pm

winger wrote:The 'fuel consumption' was a euphamism for all the boring stuff that I've overheard whenever I've been near a couple of BMWOC types.


They organised a free GPS workshop a little while ago. Someone donated use of their large office for a Saturday and someone else arranged for a load of GPSRs for us to play with. One knowledgeable chap did the teaching and someone organised a navigation exercise in the afternoon so we could put our theory into practice. Didn't cost a penny and perfectly illustrated what being in a 'family' can achieve when people make the effort.

Occasionally though, they can behave like utter twats.

A slogan on one of my most comfortablest T shirts reads "Teamwork: Think what can be achieved when no one cares who takes the credit". 8)

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Postby Archie » Tue May 30, 2006 11:24 pm

Boxadog 2000 wrote: As penfold stated the GS does have a few shortcomings,


Bob

Bollx - no it doesn't ..... I've just ridden one for an afternoon in France. What an awesome bike! You'll have a great time on that - it's a fantastic choice. I want one......

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Postby Archie » Tue May 30, 2006 11:26 pm

er hang on. Is that DDP I see??

winger

Postby winger » Wed May 31, 2006 6:26 am

Penfold

Nothing to do with me mate i couldn't spell euphamism with looking at the posting!!!!

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Re: Comparisons

Postby boxerpan » Wed May 31, 2006 7:00 am

Penfold wrote:
winger wrote:The 'fuel consumption' was a euphamism for all the boring stuff that I've overheard whenever I've been near a couple of BMWOC types.


They organised a free GPS workshop a little while ago. Someone donated use of their large office for a Saturday and someone else arranged for a load of GPSRs for us to play with. One knowledgeable chap did the teaching and someone organised a navigation exercise in the afternoon so we could put our theory into practice. Didn't cost a penny and perfectly illustrated what being in a 'family' can achieve when people make the effort.

Occasionally though, they can behave like utter twats.

A slogan on one of my most comfortablest T shirts reads "Teamwork: Think what can be achieved when no one cares who takes the credit". 8)

Penf


I'm all for well organised workshops, good day out by the sound of it - well done to them.

The only ones I've come across volunteer to man the club stand at the NEC. They had Pidcocks Boxer Cup bike on there one year 'to attract the younger types' and then wouldn't talk about it when approached. Went back last year and got a similar response trying to engage them about the new fangled K's - perhaps it's me :roll: Perhaps it's the club mentality, having met a few of the Pan Clan (not on purpose you understand) I find them equally snoozeworthy.

We don't need teamwork, we've got the Midlands Mafia :evil:
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Postby Penfold » Wed May 31, 2006 8:10 am

I guess it's that fine line between being so Anally blinkered about their 'brand' and they'll be the enthusiasts manning the stand (sounds like a Committee decision that one, where the proponents weren't on board the stand at the time), and, alternatively, so laid back that nothing ever gets done in an 'easy going stylee'? This place seems to have got the balance about right.

You're right though; the GS is a cracking bike. It'll p*ss all over anything else on the road. Did I tell you about the time when I .... (yawn) :P

Talking about riding a GS in France, don't tell him, but the main reason I bought one was when I saw what Flash was doing with one. B*st*rd! I'm penniless now.

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Re: Comparisons

Postby Gromit » Wed May 31, 2006 8:15 am

boxerpan wrote: Perhaps it's the club mentality, having met a few of the Pan Clan (not on purpose you understand) I find them equally snoozeworthy.


Agreed - the VFR Club lot are exactly the same, many of whom have migrated to GS's in the last couple of years.

As to the GS itself (in whatever incarnation) it truly is a fabulous tool. Spent 15 mins on the Red Dwarf on sunday, it was like coming home again. Instant bend-confidence and finding in it the reasons why they're so damned easy to ride quickly. As a point2point bike it does have few peers.

The weekend in France has certainly cemented in my mind the Streetrod's plus and minus points: Fabulous motor and brakes but as to cornering with any real gusto & confidence it'd be akin to doing autotesting in a Mack truck. It well and truly wore me out. In the wet? Forget it. 6400 miles on it in just over 10 weeks and it's left me a broken man. :(

Enjoy the bike Bob - who knows, I may even be 'back' myself sometime in the near future. And that F800S looks more appealing every day.

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Postby Boxadog 2000 » Wed May 31, 2006 9:13 am

DDP Indeed I'll have you know thats Rock Red (not cock red) :D

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