R1200S in London

Neil178 · Post by **Neil178** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:08 am

Hi Victor,
Sorry you had your bike stolen. I hope i never experience that.
So you bought a R1200S? Im sure you will enjoy it a lot. Solo.
Come back to this thread after a few weeks and read the replies again.
You will no doubt then agree with the opinions given to you! Lol.
Did you think about another 1100S? You will need another bike for 2 up.
Yeah, getting long in the tooth and there must be a load of newer better bikes out there, although i couldn't say what.
The old 1100S still rocks for me.
Please post up your thoughts on the twelve.

victorlaszlo · Post by **victorlaszlo** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:15 am

Neil178 wrote:Hi Victor,
Sorry you had your bike stolen. I hope i never experience that.
So you bought a R1200S? Im sure you will enjoy it a lot. Solo.
Come back to this thread after a few weeks and read the replies again.
You will no doubt then agree with the opinions given to you! Lol.
Did you think about another 1100S? You will need another bike for 2 up.
Yeah, getting long in the tooth and there must be a load of newer better bikes out there, although i couldn't say what.
The old 1100S still rocks for me.
Please post up your thoughts on the twelve.

Indeed. I'm sure it's not as good for 2 up but will try to make the most out of it, be that lowered foot pegs for the passenger or a gel pad - time will tell.

I'm playing with the thought of a back up R1100 but on the other hand perhaps I should try out a Triumph ST? Bags seem rubbish for that one though but saw a sharp looking one yesterday...

The Teutonic Tangerine · Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:31 pm

victorlaszlo wrote:
Herb wrote:My 12s get hard to turn in when the rear tyre is worn / squared off. Perhaps the ST is also sensitive to tyre wear and tyre profile?
It has got a more touring inspired chassis and suspension. And feels much longer....

Its true that the sub frame and forks are all different and the wheel base is a little longer on the ST but only 17mm or about 3/4 of an inch. The ready for road weight is supposedly less on the ST at 229kg instead of 236kg. However the tyre pressures that are recommended for the ST are lower than the S even though they carry the same size tyres. This may be the cause of the softer feel. I'll maybe try poking the pressures up to S figures and giving it a try. However, I do know that neither the S or the ST likes a soft front tyre feels horrible at low speeds - yuk

victorlaszlo · Post by **victorlaszlo** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:36 pm

The Teutonic Tangerine wrote:
victorlaszlo wrote:
Herb wrote:My 12s get hard to turn in when the rear tyre is worn / squared off. Perhaps the ST is also sensitive to tyre wear and tyre profile?
It has got a more touring inspired chassis and suspension. And feels much longer....
Its true that the sub frame and forks are all different and the wheel base is a little longer on the ST but only 17mm or about 3/4 of an inch. The ready for road weight is supposedly less on the ST at 229kg instead of 236kg. However the tyre pressures that are recommended for the ST are lower than the S even though they carry the same size tyres. This may be the cause of the softer feel. I'll maybe try poking the pressures up to S figures and giving it a try. However, I do know that neither the S or the ST likes a soft front tyre feels horrible at low speeds - yuk

My friends ST runs with the pressures indicated for pillion and luggage so I don't think that's the issue.

It's longer, heavier, has a touring biased suspension and I believe the fork angle is different too which all contribute to a less sporty feeling and a bike more inclined to go straight.

Having said that I'm not saying the ST is not sporty or can't be driven actively, and I might very well end up with one in the future, but it takes much more effort.

Having only done 200 miles on my R12S (A1) I'm not yet ready to rate it but it felt a bit heavier to turn in than my old R11S :O

metropolis2k · Post by **metropolis2k** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:09 pm

Did you buy the silver one in York by any chance?

victorlaszlo · Post by **victorlaszlo** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:40 am

metropolis2k wrote:Did you buy the silver one in York by any chance?

Indeed I did

metropolis2k · Post by **metropolis2k** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:55 pm

Good, you stopped me buying it as a track bike! Hope you enjoy it

victorlaszlo · Post by **victorlaszlo** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:58 pm

metropolis2k wrote:Good, you stopped me buying it as a track bike! Hope you enjoy it

LOL - seems all good apart from some small cosmetic repairs to the right fairing due to a drop which the seller failed to communicate. Only discovered it the day after when out in the sunlight which is a disappointing experience from York Motorola...

Light as a bicycle compared to my old R11S