Free Road Tax ?

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:37 pm

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/118875

"
Petition
Abolish road tax on Motorcycles.

Most Motorcycles cover a minimal annual mileage, have low emissions, they reduce congestion & do little to damage the roads, yet they still have to pay up to £81 tax whilst lots of cars pay Nil or only £30. This is clearly unfair and unreasonable
"

SP250 · Post by **SP250** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:39 am

Signed up today.

Doesn't seem to be gaining much momentum though.

JM

The Teutonic Tangerine · Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:57 am

13, 422 signatures now 11.55 21/01/2016

Herb · Post by **Herb** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:03 pm

3000 more than when I signed on Tuesday! Going up slowly!

JamesL · Post by **JamesL** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:13 pm

Me too - a forlorn hope but worth a moan!

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:09 pm

Herb wrote:3000 more than when I signed on Tuesday! Going up slowly!

it's got six month to reach the 100,000

Humbug · Post by **Humbug** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:07 pm

14740 now at 9.06 22/1/16 worth a punt

JamesL · Post by **JamesL** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:08 pm

While we're on, is anyone running a petition against 10% or more ethanol in petrol (likely another lost cause, but hey)?

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:50 pm

As an example of an economical modern bike engine my F8GS runs

Greenhouse gases: 88.2 CO2 g/km. (CO2 - Carbon dioxide emission)

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_f_800_gs_2011.php

which is the same CO2 as a Fiat 500 which is tax free, yet I'm paying £80 odd a year whilst not causing congestion

http://www.nextgreencar.com/tax-calcula ... 00c/57804/

Blackal · Post by **Blackal** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:47 pm

slparry wrote:As an example of an economical modern bike engine my F8GS runs

Greenhouse gases: 88.2 CO2 g/km. (CO2 - Carbon dioxide emission)

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_f_800_gs_2011.php

which is the same CO2 as a Fiat 500 which is tax free, yet I'm paying £80 odd a year whilst not causing congestion

http://www.nextgreencar.com/tax-calcula ... 00c/57804/

You can get 4 (small) people in a Fiat 500, though.

Al

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Blackal wrote:
slparry wrote:As an example of an economical modern bike engine my F8GS runs

Greenhouse gases: 88.2 CO2 g/km. (CO2 - Carbon dioxide emission)

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_f_800_gs_2011.php

which is the same CO2 as a Fiat 500 which is tax free, yet I'm paying £80 odd a year whilst not causing congestion

http://www.nextgreencar.com/tax-calcula ... 00c/57804/
You can get 4 (small) people in a Fiat 500, though.

Al

yebbut realistically, they like most cars in traffic jams have only the driver in them

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:34 pm

wonder why there's a lot more signatures on the east coast of Scotland, if you look at the map view?

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:09 pm

all seems to have slowed down now at just under 20k signatures

boxerscott · Post by **boxerscott** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:39 pm

Not sure the economics of this stack up. If less money is going into the coffers then how on earth are we going to get pot hole free roads, safe perimeter barriers and "think bike campaigns". ? Pie in the Sky

Or perhaps you want to pay more for your cars to make up the shortfall.

It aint gonna happen and I aint supporting it.

However a "Bikers against Politicians" campaign I will support most wholeheartedly

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:13 pm

boxerscott wrote:Not sure the economics of this stack up. If less money is going into the coffers then how on earth are we going to get pot hole free roads, safe perimeter barriers and "think bike campaigns". ? Pie in the Sky

Or perhaps you want to pay more for your cars to make up the shortfall.

It aint gonna happen and I aint supporting it.

However a "Bikers against Politicians" campaign I will support most wholeheartedly

I would imagine in the grand scheme of things the amounts they get in from bikes is minimal compared to other vehicles Chris?