Dynojet - power commander
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Dynojet - power commander
Got to mention - had a small fault with a PCIII after installation. Might have been my ham-fistedness. I emailed Dynojet with my woe - they telephoned me back the same day and I returned just the unit (with all my butchery on the wiring loom) and they have sent a complete brand-new boxed replacement FOC under warranty. Astounding.
..it is plug and play & it does use the correct BM connectors - piece of cake to fit, (assuming you've had anti-seize on your old lambda probe -which needs swapping for the dynojet item) The PCIII loom could be a bit tidier though and that's why I butchered mine.
As regards benefit, well, all the PCIII can do for you is correct inaccurate fuelling. So if your bike has crummy fuelling (because of, say, an aftermarket can or air filter, or because your motronic version is the one which surges on part throttle,) then the PCIII can do something for you. If your bike alreadys fuels fine, then don't expect so much.
The PCIII gave me negligble increase in max hp, but that's because I already had a BB chip which ran a fuel map that worked fine with my exhaust etc.
The PCIII did make a big improvement at low & mid-range. Although I'm chasing peak hp as much as anybody, it's mostly just vanity. Now that the PCIII is off for repair, the bike isn't as quick.
I've kept the BB chip in, because, fuel map aside, it also lets you run higher rpm. Unlike the the PCIII, which corrects the bike's own pre-programmed fuel map, the BB chip actually replaces the Motronic's fuel map memory with a new set of fuel map/max rev combos that are created to suit a bike in various states of tune. The advantage of BB vs PCIII is that BB lets you increase the rev limit. The advantage of PCIII vs BB is that it can be programmed on a rolling road to fuel your individually-altered bike perfectly....and then altered again when you bolt something else on...
The PCIII does come with a very small choice of stock programs, which were developed for a specific R1100s with a particular aftermarket exhaust. Although you can choose and load these in with you own laptop, (and others as they become available), there's every chance you could be losing out if you don't get your PCIII properly set up on a rolling road for your own bike.
Hobbsport in Keighley W Yorks did mine. I've used other rolling roads, Mark can't be beaten & he knows the R1100s.
As regards benefit, well, all the PCIII can do for you is correct inaccurate fuelling. So if your bike has crummy fuelling (because of, say, an aftermarket can or air filter, or because your motronic version is the one which surges on part throttle,) then the PCIII can do something for you. If your bike alreadys fuels fine, then don't expect so much.
The PCIII gave me negligble increase in max hp, but that's because I already had a BB chip which ran a fuel map that worked fine with my exhaust etc.
The PCIII did make a big improvement at low & mid-range. Although I'm chasing peak hp as much as anybody, it's mostly just vanity. Now that the PCIII is off for repair, the bike isn't as quick.
I've kept the BB chip in, because, fuel map aside, it also lets you run higher rpm. Unlike the the PCIII, which corrects the bike's own pre-programmed fuel map, the BB chip actually replaces the Motronic's fuel map memory with a new set of fuel map/max rev combos that are created to suit a bike in various states of tune. The advantage of BB vs PCIII is that BB lets you increase the rev limit. The advantage of PCIII vs BB is that it can be programmed on a rolling road to fuel your individually-altered bike perfectly....and then altered again when you bolt something else on...
The PCIII does come with a very small choice of stock programs, which were developed for a specific R1100s with a particular aftermarket exhaust. Although you can choose and load these in with you own laptop, (and others as they become available), there's every chance you could be losing out if you don't get your PCIII properly set up on a rolling road for your own bike.
Hobbsport in Keighley W Yorks did mine. I've used other rolling roads, Mark can't be beaten & he knows the R1100s.
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winger
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turboferret
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I'd potentially be interested in a PC3, depending on price.
Slight thread hijack here, but subsequent to fitting a Remus Y-piece, I've noticed a significant drop in MPG. It seems to be running very rich, and whilst on the way up to Edinburgh the other week on the M1, it ran dry after 148 miles
Of course the fact that the fuel light decided that it wouldn't do it's thing didn't help either, but fortunately I was only 1/2 a mile from the services I was planning on stopping at anyway, and there doesn't seem to be any fuel pump damage.
That's about 37mpg from that tank, whereas previously I'd manage about 55 on the motorway at sensible ish speeds.
Also, I've noticed significant low frequency cyclic surging, very obvious at around a ton, steady throttle, bike will die a bit, and after a couple of seconds, clear it's throat, and pick up again.
Any thoughts, and has anyone else had this after fitting a Y-piece?
Bike is standard performance-wise apart from the recent exhaust change.
Cheers, Rich
Slight thread hijack here, but subsequent to fitting a Remus Y-piece, I've noticed a significant drop in MPG. It seems to be running very rich, and whilst on the way up to Edinburgh the other week on the M1, it ran dry after 148 miles
Of course the fact that the fuel light decided that it wouldn't do it's thing didn't help either, but fortunately I was only 1/2 a mile from the services I was planning on stopping at anyway, and there doesn't seem to be any fuel pump damage.
That's about 37mpg from that tank, whereas previously I'd manage about 55 on the motorway at sensible ish speeds.
Also, I've noticed significant low frequency cyclic surging, very obvious at around a ton, steady throttle, bike will die a bit, and after a couple of seconds, clear it's throat, and pick up again.
Any thoughts, and has anyone else had this after fitting a Y-piece?
Bike is standard performance-wise apart from the recent exhaust change.
Cheers, Rich
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theseadog
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Rich I had a Remus Y on mine prior to changing for a complete Staintunes and I have to say never noticed what you have described. If anything I think my fc improved slightly. Might be worth checking your Lamda connectors, or indeed it may just be nearing replacement anyway, what sort of mileage does it have on it >?
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PAul
Keep it sticky side down.
PAul
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turboferret
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Mileage is approaching 37K, of which I've done about 1K since fitting the y-piece, and with an overall drop in fuel economy of around 35% ish 
I suppose I could have damaged one of the Lamda wires whilst butchering the exhaust during my delicate disassembly procedure a couple of weeks ago
The y-piece did come with a blanking cap for removing the lamda probe entirely - what will this likely do?
Cheers, Rich
I suppose I could have damaged one of the Lamda wires whilst butchering the exhaust during my delicate disassembly procedure a couple of weeks ago
The y-piece did come with a blanking cap for removing the lamda probe entirely - what will this likely do?
Cheers, Rich
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winger
If you look at the Pelican board,some people seem to have issues with the P/C's with starting,i have to say mine has been fantastic,it's been one of the final pieces of the jigsaw puzzle so to speak, and certainley to have any chance of making sure the bike is set up right,it needs to go on a dyno or rolling road,if your darn sarf PDQ up north Hobbsport raceing they've done a lot with S's.
Chris
Chris
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theseadog
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winger wrote:If you look at the Pelican board,some people seem to have issues with the P/C's with starting,i have to say mine has been fantastic,it's been one of the final pieces of the jigsaw puzzle so to speak, and certainley to have any chance of making sure the bike is set up right,it needs to go on a dyno or rolling road,if your darn sarf PDQ up north Hobbsport raceing they've done a lot with S's.
Chris
Yeah but lets be honest Chris most of those guys could find a problem shitting out their arses . . . . . .
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PAul
Keep it sticky side down.
PAul
Keep it sticky side down.
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winger
Weeelllll your right just trying to give a balanced view!!!,rather than the same old stuff of,'I've bought one there the best thing since sliced bread' routine,had my S 7 years in january(gulp) have avoided all the hair brained chips out there,and waited for Power Commander to come with something,now mine ain't stock, most of the original is in the loft!! so a PC may have made even a bigger difference to mine than someone who's got a stocker,i don't know.
One thing for sure people's priority should be buying of someone who can set it up rather than saveing a couple of bob.
One thing for sure people's priority should be buying of someone who can set it up rather than saveing a couple of bob.
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