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Alternator belt.

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:30 pm
by milleplod
If anyone's thinking of changing theirs, I recently found out that the belt used - Continental 4PK611 (supercedes the 4PK592) - is the same as the one used on a 1990s Hyundai Accent power steering pump! BMW price is around £18/19, eBay when listed for the R1200 in its various guises its around £14/15......Euro Car Parts as a Hyundai part and its £5.70 delivered! :)

eBay listing number is 300935594517.

Apologies if this is common knowledge!

Pete

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:53 pm
by Blackal
Guess where the Ebayers are getting theirs???????

Good find!

Al😜

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:54 am
by dave the german
Certainly worth getting as a spare

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:39 pm
by dysondiver
handy to know , many thanks

Re: Alternator belt.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:20 pm
by nab 301
milleplod wrote:If anyone's thinking of changing theirs, I recently found out that the belt used - Continental 4PK611 (supercedes the 4PK592) - is the same as the one used on a 1990s Hyundai Accent power steering pump! BMW price is around £18/19,
Pete


Excellent advice for those not aware (that multi rib automotive belts are used on boxers) I'm pretty sure though that the 611 mm belt is used with the higher output alternators (abs , heated grips etc) which is what I use and the 592mm belt is not superceded by it. If purchasing, it may be worth removing the cover and checking if the belt number is still visible. 19mm is way too much slack to take up with normal adjustment.

Re: Alternator belt.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:00 pm
by slparry
nab 301 wrote:
milleplod wrote:If anyone's thinking of changing theirs, I recently found out that the belt used - Continental 4PK611 (supercedes the 4PK592) - is the same as the one used on a 1990s Hyundai Accent power steering pump! BMW price is around £18/19,
Pete


Excellent advice for those not aware (that multi rib automotive belts are used on boxers) I'm pretty sure though that the 611 mm belt is used with the higher output alternators (abs , heated grips etc) which is what I use and the 592mm belt is not superceded by it. If purchasing, it may be worth removing the cover and checking if the belt number is still visible. 19mm is way too much slack to take up with normal adjustment.


the 592 is shown as the part for both alternators

http://www.rainbowbmw.com/BMWETK/Produc ... 014542.php

http://www.rainbowbmw.com/BMWETK/Produc ... 014543.php



Update.....
On realoem there's more info and details of the part number does indeed confirm the 592 is for the lower spec alternator with the abs or heated grip model having the higher spec alternator that as Nigel suggests is the 611 mm one.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:37 pm
by milleplod
Ooh er chaps!

A bit more digging done, turns out Conti do 2 types of 611 - the 'standard' poly one, at a nominal 611mm long, and a 611ELAST, which is 592mm long but can stretch to 611mm if needed to.

So, a 611ELAST is perfectly OK if a 592 is already in use - just under a tenner on eBay.

Guess what the one is I've been banging on about, and bought...... :roll:

Sincere apologies, and does anyone know anybody with a 90s Hyundai Accent....?

Pete

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:45 pm
by Blackal
milleplod wrote:Ooh er chaps! oops:

Sincere apologies, and does anyone know anybody with a 90s Hyundai Accent....?

Pete


There are a few on here with Hull accents......... :D

Al

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:51 pm
by milleplod
:lol:

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:00 pm
by boxerscott
My BCR was a 611mm, No abs , no heated grips.

Jus sayin FIPO

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:14 pm
by herrman
Pete[/quote]

There are a few on here with Hull accents......... :D

Al[/quote]

And your point is???
City of culture 2017 I'll have you know :D :D

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:24 pm
by bfisher
So what is the final verdict here?

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:29 pm
by nab 301
Re reading your original post I guess you are talking about a 1200s.. :oops: . It looks like they have no adjustment on the alternator and do use the "stretch" belt you mention . My comments were related to R1100S.. :oops:

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:21 am
by boxerscott
herrman wrote:Pete


There are a few on here with Hull accents......... :D

Al[/quote]

And your point is???
City of culture 2017 I'll have you know :D :D


[/quote] Bransholme Park and that Club you and my wife use to frequent... :wink:

Sure is!

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:15 am
by milleplod
I think the conclusion, other than that Hull accents are fine, is that a 611ELAST will fit bikes that originally had a standard 592 or a standard 611. Somewhere on one of the Yank sites, a guy explains how the 611ELAST is easier to fit to a bike originally having a 592 because of its 'give'.

I'm going to buy a 611ELAST one later today - I'll report back....when I find out its either too long or its snapped like an elastic band! :lol:

Pete