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Smaller wheels. It's the way forwards.

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:12 pm
by Corvus
http://charming.awardspace.com/otto_die ... orque.html

This guy says that smaller wheels increase the forward thrust.

True?

My own thoughts are "yes and no"

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:40 pm
by Merecat
Maybe, but with a smaller wheel any gain in tractive power would be negated by the loss of top end speed.
and with a passage like this:

And how much torque is there on engine shaft? Well this depends on your engine capabilities and how much throttle you give.
Engine capabilities are described with torque curve. Torque curve tells what is the maximum torque (that is, ‘on full throttle’) the engine can produce at any given engine revs.


Which I disagree with, I lost interest and stopped reading.

Ill keep with the wheels I already have :)

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:38 pm
by conkerman
+1.

A small change in gearing.

Compared to the aggro finding tyres I'd look at other ways to do it.

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:50 pm
by slparry
The Japanese widely went down to 16" wheels in the 80's and I for one hated them, they always seemed prone to feeling like they were tucking under.

The current 17" seems a much better compromise :)

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:35 pm
by Corvus
Merecat wrote:Maybe, but with a smaller wheel any gain in tractive power would be negated by the loss of top end speed.
.........


That was pretty much my "yes and no".

You'd have to raise the transmission gearing to achieve reasonable speeds, which would negate the mechanical advantage of the smaller rolling radius. Keep the gearing low and you risk breaking traction anyway.

But I think the guy is right to draw our attention to it when considering what tune we are going to play with our hp formula.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:16 pm
by Phil Thomas
With the state of the pot holed roads around here, smaller wheels would be a disaster.

Regards to all,

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:45 pm
by Herb
slparry wrote:The Japanese widely went down to 16" wheels in the 80's and I for one hated them, they always seemed prone to feeling like they were tucking under.

The current 17" seems a much better compromise :)


Ahhh, but 16.5 might be better still, like the MotoGP bikes.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:12 pm
by slparry
Herb wrote:
slparry wrote:The Japanese widely went down to 16" wheels in the 80's and I for one hated them, they always seemed prone to feeling like they were tucking under.

The current 17" seems a much better compromise :)


Ahhh, but 16.5 might be better still, like the MotoGP bikes.


Possibly, but balanced out that we need more stability than those guys .... maybe ... ish :)