Brake disc replacement (advice please)
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Lloyd
I,m going for the fully floater disc setup,using magnets and the electro pulsating force created by a coming together of rare minerals imbedded in the paint on the rim.Cant you see it glowing yellow?
Only downfall with the system is i prefer black wheels. 
Oyster
If there good enough for use in racing at top levels,then i reckon they should perform just fine.Will find out when graham gets out on his.
Jason
They even look better when the rims black.
Getting a lot of good deals off ebay at the moment.
Sorry mate,needs must i,m afraid.My rim is really knackered!
gus
I,m going for the fully floater disc setup,using magnets and the electro pulsating force created by a coming together of rare minerals imbedded in the paint on the rim.Cant you see it glowing yellow?
Only downfall with the system is i prefer black wheels.
Oyster
If there good enough for use in racing at top levels,then i reckon they should perform just fine.Will find out when graham gets out on his.
Jason
They even look better when the rims black.
Getting a lot of good deals off ebay at the moment.
Sorry mate,needs must i,m afraid.My rim is really knackered!
gus
gus wrote:Lloyd
I,m going for the fully floater disc setup,using magnets and the electro pulsating force created by a coming together of rare minerals imbedded in the paint on the rim.Cant you see it glowing yellow?
gus
..and I thought you were trying out that new reverse gear driven discs that have just been dreamt up. Like that's going to do anything for unsprung weight
Lloyd
It's not how fast you ride, it's how you ride fast.
Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
It's not how fast you ride, it's how you ride fast.
Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
oyster wrote:Clearly, there is a lot less disc than the original = less braking surface area. Do these really stop better?
I've got wavies front and rear on the KTM 660.
Even to me (and I'm not a big fan of late, hard, braking) they feel a lot more powerful than the standard disks that I had on a previous KTM.
BMW R1100S (Black)
Suzuki TL1000S (Red)
Suzuki TL1000S (Red)
Right. determined to get better brakes, so followed all the threads and decided that the galfers must be the way to go. Slight concern about the direct bolting issue, so I had a chat with Galfers. Now pay attention, they have withdrawn almost ALL direct bolt discs, RECALLED them from ALL their suppliers and are crushing them. Truly. From this week, they will only provide full floaters for vehicles with fixed callipers, ie R1100S. I dont think it was anything I said.
The new floater wavey discs will retail at £179.95 EACH! and those very nice people at Sportsbikes will be stocking them. Ask for Julian, 01205 360630. He said they may not be the absolute cheapest, but do offer free delivery (no added VAT too!) but the margin of profit is pretty small on these anyway.
Top people at that place. Also told them to prepare for a possible rush from this site!
The new floater wavey discs will retail at £179.95 EACH! and those very nice people at Sportsbikes will be stocking them. Ask for Julian, 01205 360630. He said they may not be the absolute cheapest, but do offer free delivery (no added VAT too!) but the margin of profit is pretty small on these anyway.
Top people at that place. Also told them to prepare for a possible rush from this site!
Oyster. 1999 R1100S. Almost original.
As I understood it, no more solid discs for direct bolt to wheel. Not that there is anything wrong with them, just that the floaters are better. I tried to find out where they were all going, offered to buy the lot etc, but no deal. At their expense, the entire stock has been withdrawn.
Oyster. 1999 R1100S. Almost original.
Sorry Gus et al, for this tardy reply. I wanted to make sure of the facts.
Galfer deal directly in the UK with Performance Parts, no-one else. Sportsbike Shop (good guys) are secondary retailers. They supplied me items forwarded from P P, discs on hub carriers which can not fit. Delays but full refund and promises of further help. None to be had.
Galfers at this time will not supply the direct bolt discs that the R1100S uses. So I chased around, no-one had old stock items, not suprising, I would only order unusual discs as required too. How many people at one time want Galfers for the R1100S? Quite.
In the USA, Cycle Brakes (Ventura, CA) are the main USA Galfer agents. They did have discs in stock and I wasn't going to say anything about it until they were here, in my hand. With import duty (nearly £70 via the Post Office customs) they cost me about £270 for two wavey discs, I havent had the credit card bill to define the true dollar exchange cost. That's a little bit more than Sportsbike Shop (less than £10!). AND Cycle Brakes are clearing their remaining NON wavey Galfers, that is almost identical to stock in appearance, but better metalurgy so better stopping. For about $100 each.
I present this to our keen readers for whatever action they fancy. I asked what is the real difference between 'solid' and wavey discs, it's all to do with heat loss. So if you are a reasonably sane rider who doesnt do last minute braking to the max and cook the brakes, those must be the bargain of the year. The dollar is drowning against the pound at the moment.
My Conti Attacks are on the shelf and when I have finished killing the current back tyre, both wheels will get reshod and the Galfers will go on at the same time.
Galfer deal directly in the UK with Performance Parts, no-one else. Sportsbike Shop (good guys) are secondary retailers. They supplied me items forwarded from P P, discs on hub carriers which can not fit. Delays but full refund and promises of further help. None to be had.
Galfers at this time will not supply the direct bolt discs that the R1100S uses. So I chased around, no-one had old stock items, not suprising, I would only order unusual discs as required too. How many people at one time want Galfers for the R1100S? Quite.
In the USA, Cycle Brakes (Ventura, CA) are the main USA Galfer agents. They did have discs in stock and I wasn't going to say anything about it until they were here, in my hand. With import duty (nearly £70 via the Post Office customs) they cost me about £270 for two wavey discs, I havent had the credit card bill to define the true dollar exchange cost. That's a little bit more than Sportsbike Shop (less than £10!). AND Cycle Brakes are clearing their remaining NON wavey Galfers, that is almost identical to stock in appearance, but better metalurgy so better stopping. For about $100 each.
I present this to our keen readers for whatever action they fancy. I asked what is the real difference between 'solid' and wavey discs, it's all to do with heat loss. So if you are a reasonably sane rider who doesnt do last minute braking to the max and cook the brakes, those must be the bargain of the year. The dollar is drowning against the pound at the moment.
My Conti Attacks are on the shelf and when I have finished killing the current back tyre, both wheels will get reshod and the Galfers will go on at the same time.
Oyster. 1999 R1100S. Almost original.
Sounds suspiciously like they are going down the same route as Braking (sister company) and will shortly only be available via your nearest Vunderlicked dealer at 100% mark-up
Lloyd
It's not how fast you ride, it's how you ride fast.
Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
It's not how fast you ride, it's how you ride fast.
Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
Jason M wrote:oyster wrote:Cycle Brakes are clearing their remaining NON wavey Galfers, that is almost identical to stock in appearance, but better metalurgy so better stopping. For about $100 each.
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You got any contact details for them please?
http://www.cyclebrakes.com/ ask for Melissa in sales, tell her I sent you!!
If you spend enough, you get a free T shirt too!
P&P is about $60 a pair and dont forget HM Customs sting for VAT.
Here is the whole email:
Hi Roland,
We were forwarded your inquiry from Galfer as we handle their retail inquiries and orders.
These should be DF702. Please see the attached picture of the part to confirm. (Let me know if these don't match and what your measurements are so I can research them for you).
US $129 each, in Round on Clearance
US $189 each, in Wave on sale.
Add pads to the Wave rotors at $25 per caliper for Galfer Green or HH or $15 per caliper for Galfer Black.
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Oyster. 1999 R1100S. Almost original.
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