AC Schnitzer wheels and new discs - R1200s

[thedukeofhunslet]

Well Rossiters tell me my new forged rear wheel (to match the front one I already bagged on the bay) will be with me by Tuesday latest.

I haven't fitted the front yet but the plan is to have two complete sets of wheels. So I will need new discs. The plan was to fit some PFM cast Iron jobbies that Motorworks are advertising.

Before I spend more coin...does anyone know anything about these.

Oh and what will I need 'bobbin' wise on top of the discs to fit them bearing in mind that I am not taking anything off the old front wheel.

Cheers
Rich

[throttlemeister]

I tried getting a quote from them 2 weeks ago, and I am still waiting for an answer.

So I ordered the Alth floaters 2 days ago, and they are on their merry way already.

I am not impressed by Motorworks customer service. I mean, if you can't be bothered to answer a simple question for pricing, then what can you be bothered to?

[thedukeofhunslet]

Throttle...
Yeah - I saw those full floaters and have to say they look nice.
But I only live 20 minutes from Motorworks so if they don't answer the phone I'll just go round and hammer on the door until they do.

What I can't understand is why there arn't more people making fully floaters for the R1200s. All they need to do is use a disc from a GSXR1000 and then make a new pattern inner to suit the bobbins and stud pattern = I was surprised at how simple the ALTH discs looked.

[PBBoxer]

Richard, where'd ya get them wheels?

Ive ridden a bike with pfm brakes and they were ace

[winger]

Weee'll the aftermarket wheel thing is a bottomless pit i'm afraid,i'd always go Dymag,i can't see the point in changing wheels unless your saving wieght,but jeeze do they male a difference.

The PFM thing is a whole different story,Boxerpan will reading this and be thinking shit it'll take him hour to tell e'm,he's a one man band who works when he feels like it,and i'll leave it at that!!!,and who works with who is another story as well.

[throttlemeister]

Throttle...
Yeah - I saw those full floaters and have to say they look nice.
But I only live 20 minutes from Motorworks so if they don't answer the phone I'll just go round and hammer on the door until they do.

What I can't understand is why there arn't more people making fully floaters for the R1200s. All they need to do is use a disc from a GSXR1000 and then make a new pattern inner to suit the bobbins and stud pattern = I was surprised at how simple the ALTH discs looked.

That's not exactly what Alth does, but it would be an option I guess. Alth designs their disks specifically for a bike (or set of bikes of the same brand that use the same disc). If you took the Alth discs for a Honda, a Duc or a BMW, they are all different. Carriers are different, the amount of pins are different, the inner diameter of the brake surface is different. You could not fit the BMW carrier to a non-BMW disc from Alth even if you wanted to.

[thedukeofhunslet]

I think what I'm saying is that if you're a company like Stealth Products then you design your product to be as modular as possible - that way you cut down on tooling costs.

You then redesign the disc inner to match with your limited production run of outers.

The Yam R1 disc has 10 bobbins on it - yet Stealth make theirs with 12 bobbins. This means they've redesigned to inner to match a generic outer.

All you need to do now is design a new disc inner for the BMW 5 stud pattern - and hey presto you've got a fully floating disc and the only design cost was the inner.

In fact - I've just mailed Stealth to see what they think - I'll let you know what they come up with...

PB - I got the front wheel on ebay for £500 (I think it was BMW Bikeparts that was selling it as an ex display - Its new wherever its been). I've waited long enough in the hope that a rear would come up but not. The rear is £610 from Rossiters - so hopefully they'll be good to fit by next week.

I'm going to have a weight watchers style weigh in before I fit 'em then we'll know for sure what the weight loss is.

[winger]

Let us know what the difference is,the word on the street says with AC stuff there isn't one, in fact might even be the other way.

[POB]

Blimey, £1110 for wheels?!

Can buy a lot of juice, tyres and suspension for that money.

[winger]

I paid a dam sight more than that for my Dymags and Boxerpan paid another 400 quid on top of mine for his carbon fibre ones and that was what 4/5 year ago.

When i enquired about the price,i too had a shock,my dear wife pointed out to me,that if i was mr average i'd be dead in less than 20 years,i'll have e'm in gold i said!!!,no point in dieing rich

[throttlemeister]

I like the way your wife thinks.

[thedukeofhunslet]

Rossiters have just told me it will now be 6 weeks for my rear wheel.



'snot fair. I want my teddy.

[POB]

Is it RST who advertise in the back of bike mags? They always seem to have duke-pattern carbon wheels for about a grand a pair?

I'm sure some aftermarket wheels are no improvement - someone told me the BMW wheels are pretty light, if fragile.

In the states I saw something about aftermarket 6" rear wheels recently - what's the point?? Does anyone run out of side-grip on a 5.5"?

[winger]

I run Dymags on both the S and my Tiger,the S wheels are 5 spoke magnesium,the Tigers are 7 spoke aluminium,they just light years away from the stock stuff.

[thedukeofhunslet]

There's only three people doing wheels for the R12s.
AC Schnitzer, HPE and Galespeed.
The HPE are what is fitted to the HP2 -but since you order them through your local BM dealer don't expect them to be cheap.
The Galesepeed items are a universal rim which is then machined to fit the rear with an adaptor to make the front fit. On top of which they look rubbish.

The main reason why aftermarket wheels don't change overall weight is because most wheels are a universal fit that then has an machined adaptor to make it fit specific models - sometimes a second adaptor is supplied to make the original discs fit.

The Schnitzer wheels are specific fit so they are going to be as light as they can get.