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New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:49 am
by slparry
https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/speeding ... are+Button

Oooo

Basically speeding fines from April will be in three categories A,B,C

A = 50% of your weekly salary
B = 100% of your weekly salary
C = 150% of your weekly salary

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:34 pm
by Herb
Just read the link and now I am cross. Thanks for ruining my Sunday Steve. :D

I simply can't equate speed to dangerous driving without other factors being in play. I also don't agree with people being fined more because they earn more.

I was caught in the M1 last month (camera van on bridge), beautiful day, dry, 83 in. 70. Hopefully I will get away with driver awareness as my licence has been clean for 20 odd years but I am still cross about it now. My own fault!

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:49 pm
by slparry
Herb wrote:Just read the link and now I am cross. Thanks for ruining my Sunday Steve. :D

I simply can't equate speed to dangerous driving without other factors being in play. I also don't agree with people being fined more because they earn more.

I was caught in the M1 last month (camera van on bridge), beautiful day, dry, 83 in. 70. Hopefully I will get away with driver awareness as my licence has been clean for 20 odd years but I am still cross about it now. My own fault!



<curtseys> .... sorry Jim :D

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:18 pm
by Britisherspy
This is for magistrates so what about fixed penalty ticket ?

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:10 pm
by fontana
Clearly, just another way of getting money from the ordinary working person.
A percentage of the offenders weekly wage ?
Oh I see, so only employed people get fined
People not working don't pay.

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:23 pm
by stevesilver
What about if your self employed? I don't have a weekly wage.

Will they take my word that I only earn £50 a week? :D

Honest guv..... :bounce:

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:27 pm
by milleplod
Britisherspy wrote:This is for magistrates so what about fixed penalty ticket ?


Still 'fixed' at £100 plus 3 points, as long as the speed you're caught at falls within the tolerance for the issue of a ticket....unless they're intending to change it as well!

Pete

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:25 pm
by Britisherspy
milleplod wrote:
Britisherspy wrote:This is for magistrates so what about fixed penalty ticket ?


Still 'fixed' at £100 plus 3 points, as long as the speed you're caught at falls within the tolerance for the issue of a ticket....unless they're intending to change it as well!

Pete


So the scare story is just that really, for normal speeding offences is no change.

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:40 pm
by Herb
Seems to imply that band A starts at 1mph over speed limit, hence 3 points and 50% of weekly wage fine.

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:31 pm
by boxerscott
Herb wrote:Just read the link and now I am cross. Thanks for ruining my Sunday Steve. :D

I simply can't equate speed to dangerous driving without other factors being in play. I also don't agree with people being fined more because they earn more.

I was caught in the M1 last month (camera van on bridge), beautiful day, dry, 83 in. 70. Hopefully I will get away with driver awareness as my licence has been clean for 20 odd years but I am still cross about it now. My own fault!
Get Away with what? Drivers awareness? WTF :? WHY? get your lass to take the hit! anyone who considers one of these pointless courses is a bigger pudding than the poor soul who has to conduct them. BULLSHIT!! Take it on the chin and grow a pair. :)

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:41 pm
by Herb
boxerscott wrote:
Herb wrote:Just read the link and now I am cross. Thanks for ruining my Sunday Steve. :D

I simply can't equate speed to dangerous driving without other factors being in play. I also don't agree with people being fined more because they earn more.

I was caught in the M1 last month (camera van on bridge), beautiful day, dry, 83 in. 70. Hopefully I will get away with driver awareness as my licence has been clean for 20 odd years but I am still cross about it now. My own fault!
Get Away with what? Drivers awareness? WTF :? WHY? get your lass to take the hit! anyone who considers one of these pointless courses is a bigger pudding than the poor soul who has to conduct them. BULLSHIT!! Take it on the chin and grow a pair. :)


Not quite that easy. I was in my company car in work time, hence its down to me. My choice is 3 points or (hopefully) driver awareness. I'll take the tea, biscuits and a lecture if it protects my licence.

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:15 pm
by f90x
boxerscott wrote:
Herb wrote:Just read the link and now I am cross. Thanks for ruining my Sunday Steve. :D

I simply can't equate speed to dangerous driving without other factors being in play. I also don't agree with people being fined more because they earn more.

I was caught in the M1 last month (camera van on bridge), beautiful day, dry, 83 in. 70. Hopefully I will get away with driver awareness as my licence has been clean for 20 odd years but I am still cross about it now. My own fault!
Get Away with what? Drivers awareness? WTF :? WHY? get your lass to take the hit! anyone who considers one of these pointless courses is a bigger pudding than the poor soul who has to conduct them. BULLSHIT!! Take it on the chin and grow a pair. :)


Why is it pointless?

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:41 pm
by fontana
If it was not about indirect taxation, but about education, the courses should be free.
If you have attended a speed awareness course you are obliged to inform your insurer.
Some of them will hike your premium, although interestingly, they tend to let you have the first three points on a clean license free.
At the end of the day, even though it might be a very good thing, it's still just an earner for the local authorities.
I'll take the points.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rance.html

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:49 am
by dave the german
I had a speed awareness course and the guy conducting it said if we are asked by insurer if we have been convicted of an offence say no because we haven't been convicted of an offence. If, on the other hand you are asked if you have attended a speed awareness course then you have to declare it. So, unless the law has changed since 2014 (I think) you are under no obligation to declare your attendance. I'm with you on this one Herb - I'll take the tea and biscuits - it was interesting to see the spectrum of offences from built up areas to motorways - most were for built up areas. Mine was for "safe" speeding on a dual carriageway :wink:

Oh, and at the time there was only one insurer that he was aware of was asking whether you had attended a speed awareness course - he did tell us which one but I can't remember

Re: New Speeding Fines from April

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:53 am
by dave the german
Chris, fook orf!! :wink: I need me licence more than you