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Anyone tried Metzeler Sportec M7 RR

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:21 pm
by Bruno
Sorry, another tyre thread....

I've just picked up a pair of 1200R wheels to fit my R NineT before I go to the 'Ring for training next month. That's one off my bucket list.

So which tyres? I'm not particularly struck by the Z8's on it as standard, but I'm not really up to speed with more sporty tyres. The last pair I had on my 1100S were Roadsmarts. (And very nice too, although they did get a bit frazzled at the edges after other trackdays)

I can afford to be more adventurous with two pairs of wheels, but I don't want to have to swap every time it looks like rain.
Do SportSmart 2's work in the wet? The Metzeler Sportec M7 RR is a recommended fitment, but its complicated for most tyre manufacturers because the standard wheels need tubes.

Ta, Mark

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:55 pm
by Blackal
I have Sportsmart 1 on my R-1 and BCR, and thought that tyre was the best one I had ever had on the BCR (and I liked PR2s)

In the wet? Not as good as Roadsmart at clearing large volumes of water, but - they should still be pretty good.

How far do any of us lean - in the wet......... anyway?

Al

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:08 pm
by Gromit
Mark - am I reading things right (apologies if I'm not!) that the R9T doesn't have the tubeless wire rims? :shock:

To answer re the 7RR's, a friend of mine uses them on an '06 FireBlade and seems to like them although he doesn't push them hard (he'd be better off with a set of PR4's etc if I'm honest).

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:35 pm
by Hayden
Just stick PR2`s on it and forget all about tyres....the perfect do it all tyre, and comparably cheap, just not so `fashionable` now..
Did the `Ring` on a ZX9, and a Daytona, ridden through a storm to Scotland and did trackdays at Snetterton and Donnigton on scorching hot days, all on PR2`s, they never put a foot wrong.... :wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:58 pm
by Boxered
Hayden wrote:Just stick PR2`s on it and forget all about tyres....the perfect do it all tyre, and comparably cheap, just not so `fashionable` now..
Did the `Ring` on a ZX9, and a Daytona, ridden through a storm to Scotland and did trackdays at Snetterton and Donnigton on scorching hot days, all on PR2`s, they never put a foot wrong.... :wink:


What he said.... although PR3's are even better if it gets wet, but I would have no problem running PR2s for ever more.

Steve

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:32 pm
by boxerscott
Gromit wrote:Mark - am I reading things right (apologies if I'm not!) that the R9T doesn't have the tubeless wire rims? :shock:

To answer re the 7RR's, a friend of mine uses them on an '06 FireBlade and seems to like them although he doesn't push them hard (he'd be better off with a set of PR4's etc if I'm honest).
Aye I got confused with that, I am thinking if you bought a spare set of tubeless rims then you are surely convinced that the standard tyre fitment to the spoked wheel is not suitable... to fit on your tubeless rims? :? Apologies too if I misunderstand this.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:35 am
by f90x
Gromit wrote:Mark - am I reading things right (apologies if I'm not!) that the R9T doesn't have the tubeless wire rims? :shock:


Correct. That nineT although pretty is built down to a price and then charged at a premium. The Griso has tubeless wires. And nicer suspension. And a better finish. Just sayin'.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:25 pm
by Bruno
Yes, indeed. The rims aren't tubeless. I'd assumed that they'd be similar to a GS. There are aftermarket spoked conversions that run tubeless but they aren't cheap.
Apparently R1200R wheels fit, so I thought I'd try some as a second set with different tyres. I'm hoping the cast tubeless ones will be lighter than standard.

Yes there are cost cutting measures. The suspension isn't bad, but I've upgraded, and it was pointed out that the standard Sachs fork internals are down to a price. It's loads better now.

When I bought the bike, I particularly wanted an oil cooled one, and I was too late to get an R. I like the styling, the size and the lack of bells and whistles. I'm disappointed that the paint is flaking off the oil cooler after 2000 miles and being out in the rain very seldom.
My R100 has a much more durable finish. God, I sound like my Dad!

Mark