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So, I have just removed the battery after taking off all the panel's to get to it and lifted the tank to gain acces to the wiring I did years ago-all connections are as good as the day I did them which is at least a bonus.
Before I went any further I temp reconnected the battery and the brake lights ...

Thanks Pete,That's what I thought initially BUT when I disconnect the connector from the brake light micro switch under the side panel I would have expected to be able to either turn on or off the brake light by shorting out the pins that go back into the loom-effectively bypassing the brake pedal ...

Several years ago I did the Absectomy all went well after a few issued resolved and everything worked as expected.
Fast forward to today and now the rear Brake light initially works when pressing rear brake pedal but on subsequent use it stays unlit.
The front brake lever can illuminate the brake ...

PEM , are they still going? shouldn't prejudge but sometimes a Club just asks for it .Did they all ride BMW Tourers and proudly display the Advanced Motorcyclist Institute badge ? Bet they also wore a Sam brown belt and gauntlets.nothing against AMI and getting training but it seems SO pretentious ...

Very late reply to dysondiver -exide gel 12-19 , 19ah 170a £56.98 from Tayna Batteries. Excellent service ,used them before and would recommend.

I have deleted the above post and glad to see I didn't waste someone's time replying as operator error!!!they DO work,wont bother explaining idiocy feel stupid enough as it is.....

Not going anywhere near advising which particular brand to use but I think a lot of the concerns about oil can be dismissed if you follow the recommendations of the original manual , I say this bearing in mind that recommended oil specs may be updated and may be "better" but the change of ...

All now sorted .New battery,all good.Thanks to all for time taken to post suggestions.as had replaced battery one year previously and no warning symptoms thought the worst .

How erudite....

Don't think starter solenoid in this instance due to the other symptoms presented .

Thanks Ted , on prev reply you suggested that and it was something I was unaware of,so if jump starting didn't work was going to connect substitute battery properly rather than using as a boost-having said that think I am going to bite the bullet and order new battery tomorrow as the bike is several ...

These batteries seem pretty pesky , non starting issue was instant , absolutely no prior warning like sluggish turnover on start up so perhaps its a case of just getting to a critical point regarding sulphation and the battery immediately goes kaput. Will give an update later in the week.Taken note ...

That reminds me of a story in an old car magazine about a fella that has an oil light coming on and he gets the engine rebuilt and still the oil light comes on so he gets it looked at again and of course its the switch at fault.Its easy to jump to conclusions , but until something is proved its ...

Back home now , left bike at friends as went there to join him on trip to Brighton speed Trials ,offered to take me as pillion,jeez that makes me feel young again!!Just read the replies and thank you for that .Hoping that the fact that the bat shows 4v WHEN ignition is turned to the ON position is ...

Update.with ignition switch off the clock works but dims to nothing in a couple of seconds,also no sound from fuel pump.